Monday, December 22, 2014

Queering Migrations and Citizenship

What does Queer means?

Queer means originally prejorative for gay, now being reclimed by some gay men, lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered persons as a self affirming umbrella term. Extremely offensive when used as an epithet.
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Queers migrate from every region, but the essay particularly adress migration from Mexico, Cuba, El Salvador and the Philippines. The essay specifically talks about the lives of queer migrants and what they have been through as a migrant in U.S.   U.S created sexual norms that are gendered, racialized and classed. Lesbians and gay men were legally barred from migration to U.S. The ones who come to U.S mostly kept their lives and expreriences hidden. In 1990, the ban on lesbians and gay men lifted and in 1994 Attorney General Janet Reto deemed that lesbians and gay men were eligible if they apply for asylum and if they had been presecuted for sexuality. Lesbian, gay, trans, and queer migrants continue to face difficulties. 


The text gives the meaning of queer as; "queer is used to mark the fact that many standard sexuality categories were historically formed through specific epistemologies and social relations that upheld colonists, xenophobic, racist and sexist regimes" (xi)

Queer Immigration and Citizenship: A History of Exclusion

 A History of Exclusion part of the essay overviews the history of U.S immigration control system. The term control system was formed to delimit the nation, citizenery, and citizenship. U.S government generated a "regular" immigrant control and the refugee/asylum system. In late 19th century regular immigration control, which means that sovereign nations have right to control the entry of the noncitizens into their territories. This system of control is made to require labor to maintain and reproduce and the nations will be able to turn the immigrants down as they want.
This system is carried out in a discriminatory manner. U.S immigration control has discriminated the immigrants based on sexuality, gender, race, class, and other factors. 
In 1917, some scholars date lesbian and gay exclusion people labeled as "constitutional psychopatic inferiors" were first barred from entering the U.S.
This category included "persons with abnormal sexual instincts" as well as "the moral imbeciles, the pathological liars and swindlers". 
The 1952 McCarran - Walter Act banned the people who have psychopathic personalities. This Walter Act targetted lesbians and gay men and the U.S Senate report related that "the Public Health Service has advised that the provision for the exclusion of aliens afflicted with pschopathic personality or mental defect which appears in the instant bill is sufficiently broad to provide for the exclusion of homosexuals or sex perverts."


The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in 1950s and 1960s banned the psychopathic personalities and men and women who they thought they were or might become, homosexual.
 In 1965 the immigration law recodified the lesbian and gay exclusion, this time under the ban on "sexual deviates".
In 1990 the exclusion on sexual orientation removed from the immigration law but lesbian and gay immigrants still faced with substantial barriers and there is no realization in equal access. 
For example; the two most common ways to become a legal permanent resident (LPR) are through direct family ties or sponsorship by an employer. But lesbian and gay relationships unlike heterosexual ones are not legitimate for legal permanent resident.

This is reinforced in 1996 by the Defence of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as a relationship between men and women for domestic and immigration purposes. Binational gay and lesbian couples can use the student, tourist and work visas to keep them together but because the financial troubles they ended up seperating or moving to a third country. 
A South Asian lesbian Grace Poore left her home to avoid marriage but ended up marrying a man to have a right to stay in U.S. 



In 1987, U.S immigration law added HIV to the list of dangerous, contagious diseases for which immigrants should be excluded and required and the immigrants must test negative for HIV. Immigration and Nationality Act exclude all HIV positive noncitizens from the U.S.
Lesbian and gay exclusion was a broader federal immigration control regime that is to ensure a "proper" sexual and gender order. 
In 1875 Page Law excluded the Asian women who are thought to be coming to the U.S for "lewd and immoral" purposes. Working class Chinese women were also affected by the law because it is presumed that they were all entering the U.S to work in sex industry, and U.S try to exclude them.

Heteropatriarchal families wanted immigrant women to enter to the U.S with a male protection who seemed "respectable" and could provide support. Also the immigration law provisions against women coming to the U.S for prostitution. The law includes the ban of sexual behaviours and having sex outside of marriage.


Alejandro Velas in 1910s been denied her entry to the U.S becuase she was wearing men's clothes and she has been suspected if she is a lesbian.
In 1920 Ladies Agreement ended the migration of Japanese women getting married with a white American men because it threatens the U.S white supremacy. 

Asylum Seekers

Noncitizens entry has also structed by refuge/asylum system which developed after World War II and in 1990s courts considered and issued the rulings about the significance of gender and sexual identities and practices in establishing eligibility for asylum. Refugee/asylum system is close to the immigration control. Asylum seekers are actually qualified for international protection. 

The market citizens can also become affected by the immigration control and slightly over half of all civil and huan rights violations identified by the American Friends' Service committe in a five year study of immigration control practices at the U.S - Mexico border region were perpetrated against Latinos who were U.S citizens or legal residents. 
Although citizenship involves rights and obligations that are avaliable to all members of national community in the U.S and elsewhere, citizens who are not white, male, able-bodied, property owning faced with difficulties in being a member of a national comminity. "The 1790 naturalization law reserved U.S citizenship for free whites only, and it was onlty 1952 that all formal racial barriers to citizenship were dismantled".
United States and other countries create "bridges for migration". The migration is not usually people from the poorest countries, but also from countries U.S has had close historic tie. People from Mexico, Philippines, and South Korea, who have steadily migrated when during periods of economic growth in their own countries. 

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LIBERATIONIST NARRATIVES AND REVISIONS

Queer’s searching for freedom in USA but without oppressions they experienced. USA is like land of freedom in which they hope to find new opportunities.Also they are seeking an asylum from the persecution in USA. In 1997, Martin F. Manalansan IV, in his essay he refers to Filipino immigrants who are searching for freedom and they trial for escaping from oppression shaped by a legacies of Us colonization related to economic and political relationships between the USA and Philippines. Philippines were not only searching for freedom in USA but also they were searching alternatives for the circumstances in Philippines. As Manalansan points out about queer migrants like “Queer migrants not simply as sexual objects, but also as racialized,classed,gender subjects of particular regions and nations that exist in various historic relationships to US hegemony”(pg. xxvi). 
   
This issue is also transported to a global field constructed by historic heritage and modern forms. Scholars including Manalansan search for a various way of freedom in USA but this does not mean that they can find it. This searching for freedom and long history of searching it includes connected groups includes ethnic and racial groups, poor and working people,queers and women. Even until 1990 its forbidden for them to enter USA they face undetectable and appreciable discriminations in the immigration system. Olivia Espin studied on how racism,sexism,language,homophobia and this issue of legal status affect Latina lesbian immigrants and for her “Latina migrants frequently and themselves caught between the racism of the dominant society and the sexist expectations of (their) own communit(ies) as they struggle to negotiate identity and community”(pg.xxvi). For Manalansan migrant certain groups cannot be seperated from the bounds and global history. Anne Maguire’s “The Accidental Immigrant” confirms obstacles for lesbian immigrants in feeling USA as their home even fot those who English speaking and white. The ILGO (The Irish Lesbian and Gay Organization was founded to appeal the certain worries of immigrant Irish lesbians and gays. Maguire sums up by saying the parade “is where we our “coming out” took place in Irish America and where we told that we did not belong, nor were we welcome”(pg. xxvii).

“ILGO also resonates with struggles over “out” lesbian, gay, bi, trans, (LGBT) and queer participation in other major ethnic and national parades, such as the Indian Day Parade” (pg.xxviii). Grace Poore explains the fear of the immigration control authorities leads some of the queer immigrants to constraint their activities and associations “We understand why some of us never march on the outside of Gay Pride contingents in case of cameras. Why many of us fear going into bars in case of a raid. Why we only do radio interviews never have our photographs taken”(pg. xxviii).
 As a result of this queer migrations lead to a political activism make people realize and analyze this issues. Queer migrations also contributed to cultural work  like the play of Guillermo Reye called Deporting the Diva, David Roman defines this as “remained undocumented and unexamined”(pg.xxviii). 

·         Roman’s analyses bind  Jose Munoz’s framework of “queer acts” with Lisa Lowe’s theory of “immigrant acts” and this is evaluated by Roman like “both expand theatrical representation and demand critical interrogation of race,gender and sexuality as these intersect with histories of displacement and migration” (pg.xxviii).
·         “Lourdes Arguelles and B. Ruby Rich have charted “the construction of an anti-Castro campaign (in the United States) predicated on Cuba’s repression of homosexual rights” (pg. xxviii).
·         “Such an investigation would need to address not only the points raised by Arguelles and Rich, but also how queer asylum seekers” testimonies are elicited in ways that reinforce dominant nationalism and imperialism without necessarily leading to sanctuary for the individuals concerned”(pg.xxix).
·         “Queer migrants also experience jeopardy based on their status noncitizens a jeopardy that has significantly intensified since the events of September 11,2001” (pg.xxix).
·         John D’Emilio emphasizes the importance of integral immigration after World War II, “when demobilization, new employment opportunities, and the increased sexualization of commerce drew tens of thousands of gay men and lesbians to major U.S. cities”(pg.xxix).
·         Kath Weston explains the “Great Gay Migration” to cities. Gays, lesbians and other identities constructed around urban’s relation symbolics seems as gay issues in the city while converting cities into regions of particular comunities and political power.

·         Lisa Rofel wrote about the men from Beijing, China, who call themselves gay and  are non white and from the middle class and are queer migrants roled as an evidences to globalization’s modernization,westernization and homogenization. “But Rofel challenges challenges the equation of globalization with Westernization and globalization. “As she suggests, globalization is never simply a matter of Western standards entering China or other countries “as an unimpeded cultural flow” that results in homogenization”(pg.xxx).
·         It is redeveloped as “migration as liberation” (pg.xxxi).

 DISCIPLINING QUEER MIGRANTS AND QUERRING RACIAL/ETHNIC                                                                      COMMUNITIES 
Part I: Disciplining Queer Migrants defends historical,strustural analyses of norms and cultural discourses and institutions that influence migrants living in USA.

Part II: Queering Racial/Ethnic Communities defines lives of  queer migrant’s well ethnographic and sociological studies in Miami, San Fransisco, New York which are particular settlement cities for permanent U.S. immigrants.

·         Tim Randazzo’s essay provides a history in 1994 contrary to carceral’s work saying how persecuted gay men, lesbians and transgender people made eligible for asylum applying. “Randazzo shows it also signficantly participates in multiplying distinctions and in equalities among queers nased on gender,race,class and national origin”(pg.xxxii).
·         “Focuses on cases involving Mexican-origin queers, the essay shows how the discourses and practices for processing asylum claims perpetuate, colonialist and binarized conceptions of sexual,racial,gender, and national identities even while transnational processes U.S. and Mexican people,communities, and cultures into ever closer contact”(pg.xxxii).
·         “As these authors suggest the asylum system’s role in perpetuating colonialist imagery has material consequences for U.S. -- Latin American relations, U.S. Latinos, and Latin Americans seeking asylum in the United States”(pg.xxxii).
·         “Siobhan Sommerville focuses on McCarran Walter Act of 1952, which established the framework through which immigration and naturalization remain controlled today, Sommerville inquires into the shifting links between racial and sexual controls in the production of U.S. citizens through naturalization”(pg.xxxii).

·         Eric Rand concludes the essays first part with the thougt about Statue of Liberty(also mentioned as Lady Liberty in the text) as its being an erotic icon and its reclaiming a national symbol’s hegemony into history of queer, situated and centered queerness of the narratives of mainstream immigration.
·         “Part II complements the first part by providing complex analyses of how queer migrant individuals and communities negotiate disciplinary and regulatory structures while simultaneously crafting identities, communities cultural forms and political activism” (pg.xxxiii).

·           The essay also shows the history which has been undiscovered and rejected.
·         “They enormously complicate our understanding of citizenship as lived practice versus legal rights and obligations and the dynamic interplay between these forces”(pg.xxxiii).
·         Cuba and Miami,Florida exists as critically related areas in Susana Pena’s essay.
·         “ Pena analyzes the 1980 Mariel exodus from Cuba as a means for understanding both how queer migrants histories become silenced within official records and how queer migrant histories become silenced within official records and how queer migrant cultures develop”(pg.xxxiv).
·         Manalansan mentions that for those men, citizenship is not the point of “birthright or of romantic dissidence but about survival”(pg.xxxv).   
·         In spite of the fact that citizenship is also debated for these men as whether this all queer men are legal citizens or all migrants are heterosexual. 
Some Video Links To Look At Related To The Subject:
http://vimeo.com/69580628
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lERDjzLjFAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1piGEAuphOY

 Discussion Questions

  • What do you think about asylum system ? Does it have an effective role on queer immigrants or what functions does it have besides sustaining the colonialist image ?
  • Do you agree the idea that Queer Migration is powerful and effective enough to eliminate racism besides sexualization ?
  • How does migration shaped by sexuality?


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                                                                         Works Cited

Luibhéid, Eithne. Queer Migrations: Sexuality, U.S. Citizenship, and Border Crossings. Minneapolis: U of Minnesota, 2005. Print.

"UrbanDictionary.com." Urban Dictionary. Web. 22 Dec. 2014. <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=UrbanDictionary.com>.


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Gözde İpek 
Özge Başak






















42 comments:

  1. The topic that discussed in the class “Queer migration” was really different this time, because we are only focusing on bad sides, suffering, documentation, legality of the immigrants but this time focusing on sexuality in migration. The main points are Asylum System, the tests, AIDS test and the governmental legislatures that limit-let the “queer”‘s to be.

    Firstly the part that Gözde explain was hard to understand because it is eventually becoming to your own judgment and that is hard to look objective to a situation like that. I find the second video that explains the Walter immigration act, because it was the real history but it includes just a sentence to explain the how sexuality works in this act. So there are lots of questions that comes to my mind from what I listened, why the people chosen by their appearance? Why did government call them “psychopathic”? I am asking those questions because if something seen psychological problem, this will only end badly; people were tortured by shocks in history for that reason. So what if the acts does not succeeded and those who chose to be homosexuals were going to be shocked like the other patience?

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    1. What I find interesting in the Walter act is, “exclusion of the aliens”, because if this is a “mental” disorder and needed to be cured, why did they treated like they are zombies? Or the “perversion” I guess that term (I do not know exactly) used for old guy interested in young women or visa-versa. Of course I am giving those examples from the text to get my point, my point is they are called with several different contextual terms but yet, does not identified as any kind of human even today. I personally do not like homosexuals, and my only judgment is not staying beside them. So to speak, they tried to identify the homosexuals, they failed, until 90’s they are excluded and what not. What I find interesting is being undocumented on a country and yet trying to get the name “homosexual”. I know it is more than the identity crisis but even if you are citizen in a country, you need to find a permit to protest. So are they wanted to be recognized as their racial origin, their suffering or their sexuality? Or it should be the legality of their standing in United States?

      The Asylum system was another extreme measure that America take as an action oppose to sexuality of the immigrants. People sexually assaulted/harass in those camps, they are tested for AIDS, for their appearance and if I understand correctly some of them looked for their voices, if they sound thin, they should be homosexuals kind of thinking. I do not believe people are doing this protests to find a way of sexual identity because this is a cover up for their undocumented situation. I cannot think that a person trying to get a citizenship from a country for several reasons like Ezgi’s and Burcu’s presentation showed, is more important than getting the queer immigrant status and I do not certainly not, evidently not, no one will, believe that will eliminate the Racism.

      Really think about it, even today when you criticize any feminist, lesbian or gay right, people get flamed quicker than someone say “n” word. Of course it is not a good example but what I mean is, to solve the racial problems in United States, you need a greater attitude from citizens, good legislatures that limit, aid and help immigrants, also understanding from the immigrants because they are participating the country’s economy but when it is undocumented, or overpopulated migration, that will hurt the country.

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    2. Lastly for immigration side, yes, America, and immigrant that who wants legal papers should work together to reach an agreement to live in U.S. but on the side when it gets “sexualized” for someone’s “personal” choices and needs, it is not solving anything, it is like adding more and more problems needed to be solved, to the idea of melting pot. In addition to that, racial origin or ethnicity does not shape the sexuality, and sometimes it is offensive because we are discussing homosexuality, but some of the peoples are really not comfortable with homosexuals, lesbians. Some people are homophobic, but they are just “extremists” in the eyes of homosexuals. Personally I do not give a **** what peoples choices are because this is a personal choice; and have nothing to do with race, that is why I cannot understand why they produce a sexual part in Walter Act.

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      Serhat BAŞAK

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  2. Hi Serhat, thanks for your thoughtful comments. I would encourage you to think about one of our key terms: intersectionality. From what I understand (as someone who identifies straight, so I cannot claim to identify with queer people), they view their multiple identities (remember Anzaldua here) as all intersecting with each other. That is, their identity as queer, their racial identity, and their identity as undocumented cannot be separated from each other: they are woven together like threads to make them who they are. So, in some of the video clips we saw, we saw the testimonies of queer migrants who are arguing that one battle shouldn't be fought separately from another, because, for them, they are same battle: the battle to be recognized as a human being. I believe protest movements often force people to choose one battle (think about Gezi Park here and how the protest was not always unified--different kinds of groups used the movement to advocate different agendas). Queer migrants would rather see unified movements that allow space for fighting for their multiple identities. This is what I understand from my readings of the texts and from those I know involved in this struggle. Thanks for sharing. -Jennifer

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  3. Thanks for the presentation.

    I want to start by sharing something I happened to find while digging deeper on the subject, a research on homosexuality in Turkey:

    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10508-005-1796-8

    The article itself costs quite a bit but the abstract is more than enough to have some sort of insight. I’d also consider how much of a taboo it is in Turkey and expect the actual numbers to be much higher. And of course, we have no way of knowing the methods used during the research without paying, or how they defined homosexuality. But it’s interesting nonetheless.

    Another point I’d like to make is that I do not quite agree with the expression “sexual choice.” It is not as if someone just decides to go that way all of a sudden. (“You know what? I think I will become a lesbian as a new year’s resolution and give it a go for a year.”) I believe “sexual orientation” is a more fitting term.

    And there is something that I just do not understand. Not in the sense that I’m opposed to it, but I quite honestly do not comprehend the idea. Which is that multiple battles must be fought at once. That one is not an illegal immigrant and bisexual but a bisexual illegal immigrant. I identify myself as straight and every bi or homosexual friend that I have tend to keep it to themselves –which is quite understandable considering the country they’re living in. Furthermore, I’m obviously not an immigrant at this point; so I’m really twice removed from the struggle, just as my social circle is, and I really don’t get this approach. I’d think fighting one fight at a time would be a lot more profitable in the long run.

    For some reason it always seems to be the mothers that are supportive while the dads lose their shit. Isn’t that weird? Especially when you think about how it’s seen as the mother’s responsibility to raise kids. I believe this might be related to how the society has stricter rules of behavior for men that it does for women and that a man with a gay son will get a lot more shit from his friends than his mom will.

    I really love how sexually inflammatory language has a tendency to create a gap of social standing between those targeted and those talking. Not necessarily by the meanings of the words but by the words chosen. “Constitutional psychopathic inferiors”, “the moral imbeciles” etc. all make me imagine a man in a British wig uttering them. On a horse. Looking at the horizon while talking.

    Looking back at the larger picture, it’s really sad how most with a non-hetero orientation have to act and pretend to be someone they’re not. Quite honestly, it really is no one’s business in any way imaginable. On the other hand, it’s really cool that the US sees difficulties arising from sexual orientation as a basis for granting asylum. With most European countries, it sounds like an ordinary thing but the US really surprised me there, good for Uncle Sam.

    I posted comedy here throughout the semester, feels fitting to end with some as well, hope you enjoy:

    Louis CK on Gay People
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb-JZSyhWSc

    ...and on Gay Marriage
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPvVnrV1tow

    …and on the word “Faggot”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcja4WFFzDw

    Strong language, obviously.

    Anyway, thanks for a great semester everyone. Have a nice holiday.

    -Murat A.

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    1. I mean, how can I compete with Louis CK? I won't even try. Thanks for sharing, MA. -Jennifer

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  4. First of all thank you so much ladies! I’m so sorry that I missed your presentation but I read your lovely and thoughtful blog and I loved it so much! I watched the videos and they are really great.

    Queer is a general term for gay, now being reclimed by some gay men, lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered persons as a self affirming umbrella term. I saw that you explained this well and I think that being a “queer migrant” is so difficult and unfortunately most people discriminate LGBT community and I think it is a really humiliating attitude. LGBT rights are totally human rights! Being an undocumented immigrant is so hard but I think that being a queer immigrant must be harder than that. Because people are obsessed about race, sexual orientation.
    It is clear that queers can be from every region such as Mexico, Cuba, El Salvador and the Philippines etc. Because of the sexual stereotypes in United States, we understand that queers are not comfortable about identifying their sexual orientations. I think it is so difficult because sexual identity means who you are. It is clear that lesbian, gay, transsexual, and queer migrants have to face difficulties the stereotypes and discrimination.

    I think the racial and sexual equality is important in United States. I think that everyone should believe in whole equality. People should not be judged because of their race, language, religion or sexual orientation. Facing the difficulties is not easy of course and people fight for equality and human rights.

    For example, in Turkey homosexuality is seen as a really “bad thing and sin”. I think it is so ridiculous and it is a big shame that people can not change their opinions and can not be open-minded. Personally, I know amazing people who are lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transsexuals.
    Finally I want to share a video. This is Lady Gaga’s speech and I really liked it. Hope you like it too :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAfPu22tJrY

    -Ezgi Doğan

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    1. One thing I thought of when reading your post, Ezgi, is how we talked about how terms like "immigrant" are racialized (like many US Americans think of "Mexicans" when they hear "immigrant"), we don't necessarily *gender* or *sexualize* those terms in the same way. I think for many people, it doesn't occur to them to think about how a potential migrant's sexuality might affect his/her opportunities, chances, or experiences as a migrant and immigrant. Our reading, the this blog help us to try and add another dimension to the category "immigrant." -Jennifer

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  5. Hi guys,

    Thanks for the presentation.

    The more we focus on race, ethnicity and immigration the more I discover that the hole we are digging is so deep that we can never see the bottom of it. I have to confess that I’ve never thought about queer migration and problems with regard to this issue before this week. It’s really sad that all the time there are boundaries which throw people out of the circle and make them struggle with many obstacles that prevent them from expressing themselves. I guess firstly, people start with embracing the idea that diversity, differences and dissimilarity is the source of richness. With this perception they can deal with problems of minority groups successfully. The struggle to dominate is the source of all wicked ideologies (or ideas in a simpler concept) I think. Although the main motivation towards obtaining domination is related to economics, there are some secondary aspects with relation to human nature that lead people to try to dominate subordinate groups who do not fit into some regular predefined norms.

    Because human beings are social creatures they usually search for being accepted by the society. Thus, sometimes they sacrifice their individual liberties, their ideologies or their choices in order to be a part of a larger whole. Yet, once they feel uncomfortable with the predetermined standards, they try to raise their voices and they easily find themselves out of the circle.

    Some people do not support to hear different perceptions or accept certain different characteristics of people. However, without a challenge it is impossible to develop ourselves and our thoughts. I’ve met many people who define themselves as homophobic. Actually when you ask the reason of this “choice” (because I believe human beings determine their perceptions as a result of their choices) they even do not have a reason to explain why they are homophobic. Just because homosexual are “different” some members of the dominant group feel uncomfortable with homosexuality sometimes. As the movie “Undocumented and Unafraid” mentions, many things in life create obstacles for gay people to fight against. Religion, tradition, patriarchy, machismo or other elements of the dominant culture usually work against homosexuals by throwing them aside.

    In relation to the text we have read this week, it was really disturbing to hear about legal standards of the USA in the past which rejected the entry of immigrants who are or who look like homosexuals. But disturbance is good because it creates awareness. I mean, at least it works for me in this way because I haven’t think about it before and now I feel myself responsible to know more about queer migration as a result of this disturbance. Although the legal ban is removed, their difficulties still continue because the prejudices in people’s minds are not easy to break. And these prejudices result in the exclusion of homosexual people from the society. The most efficient way to rule a society is classifying them and making them consider each other as aliens. This is what happens and this is why discriminatory attitudes are instilled in people’s minds.

    Many people who do not have the duty or authority in scientific formations engage in scientific definitions and try to naturalize and justify certain concepts such as mental diseases or inherited inferiority of certain groups. When something is accepted as a natural fact there is no way put to develop a counter thesis. Thus it is the easiest way to prevent people challenge certain norms. However, not only decision makers but also ordinary people in the society are ready to accept these discriminatory norms because once they become a member of the privileged class they start to enjoy their so-called superiority. Actors and periods change but not the reality or the essence of certain attitudes. Sometimes the targeted group is women, sometimes black people, sometimes Latino people, sometimes Asian people or sometimes homosexuals.

    Thanks again :)

    Deniz

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    1. And sometimes the targeted group represents a multiplicity of these categories of identity, which is the point we tried to emphasize this week...Thanks for sharing. -Jennifer

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  6. Thank you ladies for the well educative presentation. I really like the topic and it's finally awesome to see this topic as well, because I was wondering it a lot.
    Honestly, I am not surprised about the behaviour of America. Because, America is like a grenade when it comes to anything which's related to it's political/economic situations.
    'are you immigrant? Non- American? Not straight?'...
    and the most important one is
    'ARE YOU STH/SOMEONE THAT/WHO COULD HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO CHANGE THE (STEREOTYPED) SYSTEM?'
    So, as I said, I am not surprised. Another situation that America could use for it's own benefit. Yet, in my opinion, this is wrong. Why? Because it all comes to same point. If America is there to welcome, then there shouldnt be any 'grumble' about anything.
    Therefore, I think that migration shaped by sexuality due to the allows. I think if the country is not America, that allowes gay marriages, if it would be another country, I think that country would be the one to be prefered. So, people whom are not straight are migration through freedom about their loves.
    Kardelen İpek

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    1. A topic we haven't talked about, but one that is at the hear of anti-racist ideologies, is love. When we talk about why people migrate, we emphasize economic or job opportunities or a general "better quality of life," but we forget that many people move for love. And Omi and Winant claim that one of the only true forms of colorblindness is love. How do you fight hate, says MLK Jr? With love. Thanks for reminding us. -Jennifer

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  7. Thank you Gözde and Özge for the presentation and videos.

    Throughout the semester, we have been talking about how some group of people's lives are disregarded and how they cannot live in full quality. We mainly use our perception into examining racial and ethnic categories but never talked about sexual orientation differences. I think this article suits our aim of this course which is to understand and support all kinds of people rather than discriminating and insulting them. With this topic, we see that immigration can be caused for the sake of finding identity and freedom; not labor and economical reasons.

    Article and the presentation show that being homosexual or trans gender are "enough" reasons to be excluded from the society and not being able to enter into the USA. Suppose that you're an Asian women; the discrimination reaches a level of insult. You are treated as a sex worker because there is a stereotypical thought that only reason your attempt of entering USA could be finding a job as a prostitute. Also, you have a high risk of having HIV because of having lots of sex with bunch of different guys. This is way too insulting! I couldn't believe when I learned this. USA acts like total consumers of human life by excluding people not only by their race or ethnicity but also by their sexual orientation.

    As an answer to the asylum question; providing asylum for the ones in need -of course- benefits both sides. But the qualifications that are needed to be eligible to enter the asylum does not benefit both sides. Only USA has a right to choose. One has to prove a "well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion." Even if bisexuals and trans gender immigrants can enter into the asylum system, it does not mean that they will not involve in some kind of hardships and danger. The society has a prejudice against homosexuals. It can extend to the degree that even some parents deny their children's presence just because they are homosexual. I think this goes beyond sexism or racism; it is a denial of respecting human rights.

    I found an article about asylum system based on sexual orientation titled as " The Difficulties of U.S. Asylum Claims Based on Sexual Orientation". Here is the link:

    http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/difficulties-us-asylum-claims-based-sexual-orientation

    About the second question; I do not think sexism or racism have power over each other. They are both burden for the immigrants and homosexuals & trans-gender people. When sexism and racism are combined ,such as being a bisexual Asian immigrant in USA , your situation becomes the bottom of the hardships. The difference is that the presence of them together creates more discriminatory effect. However, neither of them can eliminate other's presence or become more prior when compared to the other.

    We should respect the differences!

    Bige YILMAZ

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    1. EXCELLENT link to a great article, Bige! Yes, there is so much more I would like to share with you guys about being queer and the asylum system! We need another semester!!! :) --Jennifer

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  8. Thank you Özge and Gözde for your thoughtful presentation.

    It was good to observe the sexuality in immigration. Immigrants have multiple problems as we have discussed throughout the course but queer migrants have more difficult challenges. They challenge sexual stereotypes besides the other challenges for the immigrants. Their personal identity intersects with their sexual identity, racial identity and their identity as illegal immigrant all together at the same time. They challenge different aspects of stereotypes and discrimination against all these qualities they have.

    Sexual norms and struggles always create hierarchies and “naturalize” inequalities. But these inequalities also constructs of citizenry and social ordering with the queer migrations. What I mean is that sexual hierarchies and gender related problems shape migration and expands the state migration control. America often decided whether to admit or refuse entry to migrants based on sexual considerations. I am surprised that these legal standarts in the past did not accept the entry of immigrants who are homosexuals or even the people who look like homosexuals. Moreover, migrants continue to be governed in sexual terms even if they enter the Unites States in many areas such as health, welfare or education systems. This is why it is more than just assimilation problem or struggle against race based discrimination for queer migrants. As they cannot separate their multiple identities they have to face various identity problems all together. Their sexual identities are related to their supposed success or failure in assimilation, therefore, I think that queer migration was never effective enough to eliminate racism and it is not effective enough to eliminate it even now. They cannot affect each other in any ways but they can only add more difficulties and challenges for these immigrants.

    Burcu Karatekeli

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    1. Hi Burcu, thank you for this insightful meditation on the idea of *intersectionality*--which you have illuminated us for elegantly in this response. --Jennifer

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  9. Thank you Özge and Gözde for your informative and clear presentation.

    The immigration controle system carrired out in a discriminatory manner, we have seen mant different reasins of discrimination in U.S. immigration control policy such as race, class, economic push and pull factors and many other but first time we looked into the issue from another point of view as sexuality. This is an extreme and great important issue, not that the other reasons for discrimination are not important but sexuality is very privet that cannot be judged by other at all.

    It is a very difficult struggle being an immigrant in a society, being "the other one" or being the "alien" but queer migrants are faceing a much more difficult presure because of their sexual preferences this is an extreme humiliating attitude. The homosexuals elwere not allowed to immigrate to the U.S. in the past but actually immigrating was most of the time the only choise these people had in order to live freely. And when it comes to the question that which one should these people focus on first to their citizenship problem or their sexuality problem. In my oppinion there is no difference in between these two basic human rights, one is the bread and the other is the wather they are both basic rights of human beings. Unfortunately, homosexuality is consdered as an illness or a sin by some cultures and iy is the same in Turkey (mostly). The problem is based on how we see things different then ourself or the ones we know, our attitude towards anything different then the one we know is mostly hursh this is the result of being inconsiderate as human beings.

    Rabia Betul Kubilay

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    1. Thank you for sharing your humanistic vision for the world, Betul. If only, right?? --Jennifer

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  10. Thank you ladies for your well prepared presentation.

    In this course, we have learned so many things about racism such as its causes, results and solution. How migrated people have to deal with racism after arriving the U.S has been our main subject. We have learned/read about lot of people who belong to different nations, ethnics and cultures. We learned that they mostly emigrate from their home country due to over population poverty and economic recession. Moreover, with our presentation with Berivan, we have learned that these are not the real causes; the main reason is the linkages the USA created between America and other countries. However, we did not really talked about lesbians or gay people. Therefore, the reading and the presentation was very helpful to look from another perspective.

    Homosexuality isn’t generally considered as a normal issue. Most of the people look homosexual people look at them with different eyes. It is also true for Turkey. However, it is very surprising that it is very hard for those kinds of people to migrate to the USA. İmmigration itself is already a very tough issue; to make matters worse homosexual people are suffered from unpleasant treats. This is mostly because people see it as an abnormal thing as if those people were not human beings just like others. In one of my classes, the professor gave us the message that what the majority do is not always right by saying if we ask (Turkish) people whether to kill homosexual people or not, most of them answer this question; YES!, KILL THEM!. I think he was right about it. If we go out today and ask people the question, most of them will say, YES. Therefore, in my opinion, first of all, we should change the people’s mind and perspective to homosexual people to help them.

    PINAR ILGAR

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    1. I wish we had drawn the thread of sexuality through the other readings as well, but I can only assign so much work for you guys!! But, in my ideal course, we would have read more articles that address race in the USA and the Americas from a queer lens. One article isn't really enough to truly engage the interrelated concepts of race, ethnicity, class, citizenship, gender, and sexuality. :( --Jennife r

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  11. It was a great presentation that deals with sexuality within the context of immigration. I would like to make write about that issue in a way by being agree with America by looking from a cultural conservative perspective.

    The issue of sexuality is a completely alienated part of the migration to United States. As we studied the reasons of migration to US as pull and push factors which mainly concerns about financial issues, labor and search for better life. All of the these issues are in a way a result of mutual interest between US and immigrants who want to migrate to Us. However, inclusion of sexuality into the migration is a one sided interest of the immigrants because one of the reasons of immigration to United States is its being a land of providing sexual freedom and people want to migrate to reach freedom that they cannot practice in their own countries. However, in my opinion United States of America still has an image of “patriarchal society” and tries to protect dating back cultural order by preventing the youth and the society from being influenced by so called (by US laws) “psychopathic personalities” and from possible dangerous illnesses. At this point I want to say that I’m at the side of US. I want you to know that I’m not against peoples sexual choices, however, I believe that there is sexual freedom in United States and it must be limited with US own population. It must also be same in other countries in order to protect the social order. Because overdose of sexual practises would affect more and more people most of whom would make sexual choices not according to their own wishes but according to social norms and social expectations and social influences. But Please Do NOT misunderstand me I’m not against sexual preferences of individuals but I’m for protection of social values of each society that is shaped by its own country. Most of the countries are losing their social and cultural values because of being influenced by other nations. In my opinion its not social development of values but wannabe life style. So to conclude ı would like to say that lesbian, gay, trans, and queer are facing some difficulties that not fair but required for protection of order.


    HASAN BAYRAM

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    1. I'm curious what you mean by "overdose of sexual practices"? -Jennifer

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  13. Thanks Özge and Gözde for your presentation.

    We all have different kinds of ideas about different kinds of people. It is also same for queer people too. However, the question here is how we can understand that a person is ‘different than us’? Is there any legal evidence? It is unacceptable to judge people according to their appearance. Even if you try to blame a criminal, you should have to have evidences. In that sense we have to notice that we are mentioning about innocent people, so there is nothing can justify this situation.

    In addition, I cannot understand that all problems about migration are solved so that now it is time to solve the problems about queer people? Being a queer people or not; this is not someone else’s job especially government’s because it is an individual choice, like religion. This situation cannot be also should not be controlled by other than individuals. If there is a valid law for people, it should not be separated according to men, women or queers.

    Dilan Algan

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    1. Well, I think that what the reading was showing us, is that it *is* the government's problem when the government creates laws that attempt to regulate and shape the sexual contours of its citizenship (i.e, by excluding immigration to certain groups based on their gender or sexuality). Right now, a big issue in the courts is that judges have big differences in opinions when it comes to granting asylum to queer people based on persecution for their sexuality in their home countries. Some judges are more liberal, others are more conservative. So here is where the personal becomes political....
      -Jennifer

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  14. Thank you ladies for this informative presentation!

    The status of LGBTQ people is still very controversial in many countries and in some states of the US. When being an undocumented citizen is added to that the issue becomes a big problem because now, these people are forced to deal with two complicated problems. Apart from economic reasons of immigration, social and moral reasons also compose an important part of immigration decision process. Many people migrate to another country even though they have a comfortable life back in their homeland. However, these people choose to move from their countries because they want to express their feelings and desires freely. For freedom and equality, especially LGBTQ people choose to change their social environment. America is a partly welcoming country in this sense because many queer people have the chance to live freely there. They can express their homosexual or transsexual nature and they are embraced in the society. Although still America is not completely embracing queer immigrants, but 35 states in America has made queer marriage legal. Queer immigrants come to US either as undocumented immigrants or on a fiancé/fiancée visa. Despite all the difficulties of being an immigrant in the US, these people choose to live freely and leave the secluded environment behind. For example in the first video, man giving an interview hides his face because he fears to be seen as shameful in his country. The idea of queer people being abnormal pushes homosexuals or transsexuals to hide their identity and limits them to a fake character; heterosexual man/woman. However, no one or no place has a right to do this and that’s why many people leave their countries, traditions and cultur that they are used to.

    The main problematic point in queer immigration is the question of: Do I fight for equal rights as a queer person or do I fight for my rights? Because these people are torn between two important problems: they both want to express their identity freely and be accepted as a citizen in the US. The American government had even constructed laws before to prevent queer immigration because they believed queers would disturb the purity of the nation. The officials looked at immigrants and assigned them either as queer or straight-only by their appearance. It is important not to forget that apart from their national, ethnical or biological identity; they are humans, just like us! We have discussed a lot about being Latino, being an immigrant or being an alien in the US society but being a queer immigrant is harder than these. At least Latinos, Asians or Arabs’ problems are discussed a lot but queer immigrants’ issues are not realized and discussed much. They are pushed aside and thought to be a secondary problem. If a person is Latino, Queer and undocumented; then the problem gets bigger and the solution becomes harder to find. Therefore, we should not classify people and try to put them into categories. Because as the number of categories increases, the problem also gets bigger. How can you decide how much a person will be loyal to US by just looking at their origin or sexual choice? You cannot. A persons’ feelings for a country is very much different from their ethnicity, religion, appearance or sexuality. We are human in the first place and it should not be forgotten.

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    1. This is the sentence that strikes me so much from your post: "A persons’ feelings for a country is very much different from their ethnicity, religion, appearance or sexuality." What you are saying is that feelings of allegiance and belonging are much more complicated than our official (or even unofficial identities) suggest. I agree.

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  15. Thank you Gözde and Özge for this presentation.

    This time our focus was the sexual orientation and the problems that the undocumented people face because of their sexual choices. Being an undocumented is very hard for immigrants as they do not claim any rights from the government and they are seen as “aliens” and “criminals.” Before this presentation, I had never thought about the condition that what if an undocumented person is gay at the same time?

    Deportation, violence, discrimination are again what those people have to deal with. Of course not everyone is against to these people as there are conservatives who support that queer immigrants should be sent back to their countries while there are liberals who supports the equal life opportunities. Those differences create a conflict and the problems still exist. When I was searching about queer immigrants, I came across a project that includes queer immigrants who try to make their voice heard and seek for social justice. The name of their project is Queer Undocumented Immigrant Project, QUIP. They aim to organize and empower LGBTQ undocumented people, LGBTQ immigrants and try to gain rights and dignity. Here you can find the link to their website: http://unitedwedream.org/about/projects/quip/ and they have a video which includes “UndocuQueers” and in this video they talk about the experiences and struggles that they face as undocumented immigrant communities. http://unitedwedream.org/quip/no-more-closets/

    After learning about another group who suffers because of their differences or sexual orientation, I cannot stop myself thinking about what else can be a burden or a difficulty for people. As we already talked, immigrants, Africans, Latinos, Asians, Arabs, Muslims, Natives, slaves, undocumented people and now undocumented queer people all lack of equal human rights and they face discriminatory practices. So, what else can be a problem for people in addition to the things that we have already discussed? Hope there is no more...
    -Tansu Özakman






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    1. Yes, you located a very important organization that is at the forefront of the movement to help society recognize people as undocumented in addition to their queer status, which, as we have seen, sometimes makes a path to legal citizenship more complicated or even impossible in some cases. Thanks for the shout out to QUIP--they are doing good work!

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  16. Thank you girls!!

    I know this subject with gays is still a living and changing thing but I saw this news from NYTimes (its date:2011) (link is: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/29/nyregion/29asylum.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 ) It says "Amid international outcry over news of the Czech Republic’s testing the veracity of claims of purportedly gay asylum seekers by attaching genital cuffs to monitor their arousal while they watched pornography..." I mean "What the hell!?!" This article shows what people had to do in order to get asylum and it is so sad that they had to go through with it. After reading the text and listening to your presentation, I remembered it and wanted to share it with you.

    And here's another very recent news about gay asylum seekers(link: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/26/come-out-to-immigration-officials-or-be-deported-gay-asylum-seekers-will-suffer-under-morrisons-new-regime ): It says "Asylum seekers dealing with the shame, stigma, and secrecy associated with their sexuality or gender identity will now essentially be required to “come out” to immigration officials." this system called "fast-tracking". You need to prove that you are gay, lesbian or transsexual and it should be "reasonable" but "reasonable for whom?" is the question. I think this is another attempt of America who wants to block immigration.

    Being an immigrant is really difficult in America. Also being homosexual is really difficult for Americans. Imagine being both! Firstly for somehow, they need to work as twice as homosexual immigrants because they have to make America to except them both as an immigrant and as a homosexual person. Unfortunately, we are not living in a world in which homosexuality is excepted as normal (when I say normal, it reminds me the recent movie: "the Normal Heart" It is an amazingly sad movie about raising awareness of AIDS and gay people in 1980s in America) I think what Americans need to do is to except that they are not the only people in this fairly big universe. They do not set the rules of being human. Duh! However in today's world, money and media is everything and they have both so they are powerful enough to attract people into America and not accept people to America.

    During this semester, there were many parts in which I have to question my love for American culture over and over again. However after learning all those things, now I want to love it more and since I love it more, I also want to change the bad parts of it. I can say this class was really helpful to make me more active in the face of unacceptably unequal actions of the countries.

    Here is also really interesting and sad news about gay asylum seekers in Manus Island (It is outside of the USA border but I think it should be known how these people try to survive and how difficult life is for them) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/24/gay-asylum-seekers-manus-island-fear-persecution-png

    And I know, I share lots of internet site but I've just remembered another video( it is not immigration related and I'm sure it will be more useful in the next semester Gender class but here it is if you did not watch it yet) It shows how world would be if heterosexuality was a sin and homosexuality was the normal... Love is all you need? is the question which is being asked by the movie. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ROXTFfkcfo

    -Ezgi ULUSOY

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    1. "work as twice as heterosexual immigrants" not homosexual. Sorry about that~

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    2. Ezgi--you brought up a really interesting point that we didn't discuss in class: the idea of having to "come out" as part of the asylum seeking process. Unlike other categories we've talked about, like race and ethnicity, rarely have immigrants had to "come out" as a specific racial or ethnic identity--usually this process what done for the migrants by the legal system and immigration processes themselves. However, in the case of queer migrants, many of them are forced--for the first time--to publicly claim and acknowledge their sexuality. This can be a traumatic experience, regardless of the circumstances, but can you imagine having to do in in front of a judge and court in a foreign country where perhaps you don't even speak the language? Thoroughly traumatizing. This is a crucial aspect of the asylum-seeking process and queer migrants that we did not cover, but it's SO important to think about the psychological damage that might happen to people seeking just the opposite...

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  17. Jennifer asked me why did I made different types of comments for different presentations on a similar topic. We all believed that Mexicans fighting for their rights in America was their top priority and that their cause was just; that the Americans were simply treating them badly. And when the topic became queers we changed our minds (at least I did) about the whole fight and made the comment "they should focus on surviving first instead of fighting for the LGBT".

    Now there is something strange here that somehow makes me uneasy. Being gay is not a nationality, it is not something you do for a community but for yourself. When Mexicans were fighting for their rights it was for a good cause, it was honestly justified. I felt this way because there was an actual voice, voice of a group of people who are bonded with the strong ties of an inseparable community. But when it came for queers fighting for their queer right even before their migrant ones it felt off. It felt like a poorly made event on facebook to get imaginary likes and that if they screamed loud and long enough someone will take them seriously. But really, WTF? As a migrant you come to US and find barely enough food to feed yourself and you want to fight for gender issues first?

    I couldn't honestly take it seriously after I watched the videos because really, thousands of people dying everyday to cross that goddamned desert and most of those who do are captured and deported back, and here you are screaming 'I wanna express my sexuality freely!'. This is wrong. There is nothing wrong with the fight itself, but it is just poor judgment on the part of these guys/girls. It doesn't make sense to fight for LGBT rights when you should be either focusing on survival, or on making things safer for the larger community. I might have come harsh with this but to hell with it. It's a gut feeling and I think what they are doing is shameful, like trying to share in on the spotlight..

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    1. I believe what they are saying as that they cannot separate these two fights from each other. Also, while sexual identity might be considered an individual issue, the LGTBQ community is still a *community* just as much as any other group or community fighting for equality. One thing to consider when thinking about the intersection of citizenship status and sexuality (why they are making "a big deal" out it), is that paths to citizenship (legal) that are open to straight people are not always open to queers. Many undocumented people want to be legal citizens, but the traditional paths to citizenship do not always include homosexuals (think of marriage to a citizen, military service, etc.). Now, slowly, and only in this last year or so, these things are changing in favorable directions for queer migrants, but perhaps you can see why they understand these fights as intertwined...

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  18. Thank you ladies for the presentation. Your blog is very informative, thank you for that.
    I think being immigrant is very difficult in itself and being gay, lesbian or trans immigrant is much more difficult. Because I think many people cannot understand why or how their sexual choices are different and it is mostly because ignorance. As always, people think that if something is different from majority, it must be abnormal and dangerous. Therefore, for people who have different sexual choices being immigrant is two times more difficult. Because they have to deal with either immigrant issues or sex issues. While it is really hard to deal with just one of these issues, dealing with two of them must be damaging for them especially their psychology. However, I think not just in America, in many place in the world they are forced to live secretly and not accepted as a part of the society. For example, not so long ago one or two years ago, in Bilkent where supposedly mostly "modern" people live, two gays were beaten for being gay at a party. So, hearing that they have to face many diffuculties in America as immigrant is not suprising for me and as I said it is not just in America. Yet, I am really happy to hear that something started to change about rights which are given to them. It shows that people start to try understand and respect to their lifestyles and choices.

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  19. I want to thank Gözde and Özge for your presentation.

    Before we start analyzing Queer migration, it is important to explore the terms “migration and migrant”. In fact with this week’s article, these terms have been clarified for me. As the author suggests, “Migration” as term is not highlighted as the term “immigration” (11). Migration refers to the act of shifting borders without concerning the legal status of the persons. This is very important because by not bringing up these terms the federal government empowers its controlling of migrants and their rights. Migrants without knowing their rights or who are poorly informed about them are not able to pursue a systematic process of immigration.
    In the case of Queer migration, we are in different spectrum. Migrants who are not legally resident of the USA aka “undocumented immigrants” have been facing not only economic and political challenges, but also gender and sexuality issues. The presenters also expressed when we think of immigration, sexuality and gender are not considered as primary grounds for carrying out that action. One of the reasons for that perspective is because it is a pretty recent for transgender, gays and lesbians to legally ask for asylum or apply for citizenship. In 1994, the act that prohibited the queer entry was repealed. As a result, studying immigration in the context of USA, within queer studies, have gained legitimization and this change accelerated the research in that field, but it also was not quite familiar to the historical pattern of USA immigration studies. Therefore, as the author suggests, queer studies as an academic field is quite new in structuring its theoretical framework.

    I questioned how USA started to idea of embracing transgender, lesbian and gay persons. It is expressed when we look at the historical background of the issue. Homosexual activities were considered as “inappropriate” and the persons were considered as “deviants”. When homosexuality gained an “identity status”, then regulations started to change. And this took for queer migrants to wait until 1994 to without being question about their sexual identities while they were crossing the borders. However, as these regulations are being made, did queer migrants find the freedom that they have been seeking? It is the question that can be answered in several ways. It is evident that when race, gender, class, citizenship intersect, they create a big challenge for queer migrants. They have to deal with various stages of norms, identities and concepts that shape their life in the US. From videos that we watched, it is stated that most of the migrants are happy to continue their lives in the big cities like NYC and San Francisco because of their harboring of more urban and multiplicity elements. Therefore, United States as a host country attracts millions of gay, transgender and lesbian people for providing “fair conditions”. Though, USA is still in progress for doing legislations are being regulated to equalize the circumstances for the citizens. The migrants are also not necessarily come from the poor countries. Those people are not preoccupied with the economic needs, but for gender issues that they may not face in the US.

    Hacer Bahar

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  20. Thank you for this great presentation.

    I found queer immigration issue really interesting. Throughout the semester, we have learned that immigrants face some challanges in public sphere in the US. Some of these challanges are created by governments and covered by some certain laws. We saw that even though they got citizenship later, still immigrants and their rights are either ignored or not supported. At this point, it is possible to say that the issue of queer immigrants are more complicated, because the concept has two dimensions in itself. One of them is their being “immigrant” and the other one is their being “gay,lesbian,bisexual, or transgendered”. If they are undocumented immigrants, even we can say that there is one more dimension which is their being “undocumented”. Thus, they have to face more challanges that “normal” immigrants face.

    A history of exclusion of queer immigrants demonstrates us that these people are seen as “abnormal” in the past and this perception adopted towards them made easier their exclusion. At this point, an important question arises: What is being “normal”? In one of the videos, the woman states that “I saw a lot of thigns that weren’t normal – well, “normal” at least according to my older way of seeing things.” I really liked the way that she describes the meaning of “normal”. She focuses on the subjective nature of the concept.

    It is seen that without scientific explanations more conservative approach is adopted about this issue in the past and this reflected to the situation of queer immigrants as well. Even queer citizens suffer from this exclusion created by governments and society, it is not surprising for queer immigrants to face these obstacles. About the dicussion that we had in the class, I want to say something. I think queer immigrants cannot say “OK. First, I will fight as an immigrant, and then I can fight for my sexual identitiy and preferences.” These people cannot ignore themselves. Of course, they will fight for both their sexual and immigrant identity. Thus, I support their fighting for what they are.

    Yasemin Öztemür

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    1. Thank you for answering the question I posed to the class, Yasemin. I am very curious about people's thoughts on this issue!

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